VVDI2 or Lonsdor K518ise: which can OBD read BSI/ECU PIN from old PSA?

Possible to read PIN code from BSI in an old PSA? Xhorse VVDI2 can do that or what else?

 

It depends on the ECU type rather than the BSI …you can investigate more but it must be extracted from the ECU

 

PSA you can not extract pincodes if they are manufactured before December 2006.
and you can only extract in kline system

 

Vvdi2 can’t read pin code from old Peugeot and Citroen.

It can read just from CAN BUS system

And not reading the pin for all keys lost…Only add key

 

VVDI2 failed to read PIN from a Citroen Xsara Picasso 1.8i (engine code 6fz), the build year September 2004.

VVDI2 doesn’t detect ignition off for 5 seconds or ignition off with key out for more than 10 seconds (trieds several ways). Counter stays on “1 of 6” and finally times out.

So, Don’t think it has can in the obd on the old Peugeot or Citroen, you would have to connect can hi and can lo direct to the ECU

 

You can read ECU pin by obd, and all BSI units by pinout

 

Pls. do this BSI but not by obd, by BSI pinout

 

 

Good to know: Lonsdor K518: YES! Better solution for PSA new and old!

…easy peasy extracting pincode in k line psa with lonsdor.

 

Look here:

Look here:

K518 read pin code Peugeot 407 year 2007 success

   

 

new models works as well,  Lonsdor K518ISE read out PIN code for Citroen Jumpy 2018

Done!

 

Attachment: Lonsdor K518ise Peugeot and Citroen car list

Make	Menu		Function
PEUGEOT		PEUGEOT\Select from type\Replace engine ECU\M745		Replace  engine ECU,
CITROEN		CITROEN\Select from type\Replace engine ECU\M745		Replace  engine ECU,
		CITROEN\Select from vehicle\C4\Immobilizer\Type 2		Program key,

Src: http://www.obdii365.com/wholesale/lonsdor-k518ise-key-programmer.html

 

OBDSTAR F108+ is a safe PSA PIN CODE reading tool, fast read pin code via OBD.

Hardware check = OK

Tested OBDSTAR F108+ read pin with working key:

Citroen ds3 2013- ok

Citroen picaso 2009- ok

Peugeot 207sw 2004- ok

Peugeot 407 2004-ok

Peugeot 307 2005- ok

2010 C4 picasso

2012 308 read pin code within 6-7 minutes. all fine.

207 2009. Need igntion On – OFF 10 times in 7mn. Pin read succesful.

Peugeot 208 2013, very fast. Only ignition OFF – ON 1 time and it give pincode.

C3 2014 Valeo BSI, one time OFF ON and give pincode.

Peugeot 307 2008 pin code read-ok

Citroen C5 FAST-OK

307 CAN > 2005

PIN CODE OK , 4/5 minute

Tested on PEUGEOT 307 , year 2006

Peugeot 207 -07: about 7mn

Jumpy – 08/09: about 6mn.

(All for additional key. Use pin and program with X100+. )

Citroen Picasso 2006, reading pin OK

Citroen C3 , Engine 9HZ, year 2005, reading PIN = OK

Peugeot 207 , Engine 9HZ , year 2006, reading PIN = OK

-> I have extracted pin from over 20 cars, all fine. Not necessary to connect charger to car as it doesn’t put Bsi in service mode like psa bsi tool, or avdi where windscreen wipers would activate etc. On average 5 to 8 minutes, although a 508 and a 2008 I did it found code almost instantaneously.

-> “F108+” LAST UPDATE V31.20 positive feedback:

tested on 2004 Citron C4 , PIN code retrieve less of 4 minutes , verified with Diagbox

VIN: VF7LC9HXC74172360

PIN:HS19

PCB Full chip

I plug on OBD2 and F108+ sniffing “kwp fast”traffic , i turn ignition “on/of” 10 times / 4 minutes

2004 C4 / this car is not CAN ! CAN protocol is after 2008 on PSA car , some user say NO HE CAN’T , but yes we can !

I’m sure full chip PCB F108+ with last update can retrieve all PIN code , it’s the same BSI for PSA ( Siemens , Valeo & J-C ) .

And if it’s not FULL CHIP tool F108+ , CONNECTION BREAK DOWN , k-line is not operational .

Thanks TERMINATOR1000 & Duracell2’s experience share (DK member)

– Citroen C3 AirCross 2017, hitag AES 128bits. Get pin just one time OFF/ON

Citroen C3 2014, CE0523 FSK, get pin also one time OFF/ON.

So it is very fast for PSA newer car 2017.

Note: I get pin with F108. Program with SKP900.

– Citroen c4 2005 can-jc pin ok

– Peugeot Partner 2011 , PIN code retrieving in 5 seconds !!! 2 Key programming less than 1 minute ….

– F108+ cost 110€ ! & pin code 3€ ( car before 2006, someone test ok on 2017 year ) , more than 100 success key programmed !

F108+ over the top

-Peugeot 308 ( 2008- ) , PIN retrieve less than 6 MINUTES , 2 Key programming OK ( ASK 2BT CE0523 PCF7941 )

 

OBDSTAR X300 PRO3/DP/DP PLUS read PSA pin code for free

OBDSTAR PSA pin code reading features in: Auto identify ECU model and read Pin code for free.
Testable list:

SIEMENS D76F0018+95160 K LINE(BSI-E0X-00/BSI-F0X-00)

SIEMENS 1L00M+95128-95256CAN(BSI-S0X-00)

CONTINENTAL SC667050+95256 CAN(BSI-Q0X-00)

JC easyCAN4+29LV400BB+95128 CAN (BSI2004-H0X)

JC easyCAN4F1M-32+95128 CAN (BSI04EV-K0X)

JC SPC560B60+95128 CAN (BSI04EV2-KEX)

VALEO 2M48H+24C128 CAN (BSIEV-X0X-00)

VALEO 4L00M+95128-25128CAN(BSI2004-P0X-00)

VALEO SC667152+95256 CAN (BSI-N0X)

Procedure:

Tap “Read PinCode” , then “All keys lost read”

 

Others:

PSA IMMO TOOL: extract the pin code from PSA engines in Peugeot and Citroen cars from 2001 to 2018. The device has two main functions :one is pin code calculation via obd, it intercepts the signal from bsi to ecu, pin code from obd needs working key. Another function is the emulator programming this allows you to enter the pincode into the emu to run the car without key

PSAI2EMU : Peugeot Citroen IMMOBILISER IMMO DECODER and EMULATOR from 2001 – CAN

Smok: smok good for new psa cars and olds to, it have option to find pin for old kline siemens bsi to.

Abrites: abrites has proved to be excellent on can vehicles and reliable now on a lot of old kline too , really can’t fault abrites psa from read pin to code key